Monthly Archives: February 2010

Phil Jones on the Medieval Warm Period

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Q&A Part One: Prof. Phil Jones on the MWP

Phil Jones is director of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA), which has been at the centre of the row over hacked e-mails.

The BBC’s environment analyst Roger Harrabin put questions to Professor Jones, including several gathered from climate sceptics.

Here’s the question about the MWP:

There is a debate over whether the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was global or not. If it were to be conclusively shown that it was a global phenomenon, would you accept that this would undermine the premise that mean surface atmospheric temperatures during the latter part of the 20th Century were unprecedented?

Here’s Phil Jones’ reply:

There is much debate over whether the Medieval Warm Period was global in extent or not. The MWP is most clearly expressed in parts of North America, the North Atlantic and Europe and parts of Asia. For it to be global in extent the MWP would need to be seen clearly in more records from the tropical regions and the Southern Hemisphere. There are very few paleoclimatic records for these latter two regions.

Of course, if the MWP was shown to be global in extent and as warm or warmer than today (based on an equivalent coverage over the NH and SH) then obviously the late-20th century warmth would not be unprecedented.

Thanks, Phil.  Now, let me help you.  There may indeed be very few paleoclimatic records for the tropics and the Southern hemisphere, but there are data.  Plenty of data.

In Antarctica, there are very old glaciers, and cores samples have been extracted.  Would it not make sense to have core samples analysed to see what could be calculated about temperatures and CO2 content from, say 1 AD to the present?  So far, researchers have concentrated on the great ice ages, but nothing has been published about the last two millennia.

We know that in the northern hemisphere, temperatures declined markedly during the fourteenth century.  The Maori people, indigenous in NZ, were established by the beginning of the fourteenth century and were settled in both the North Island and the South Island.  Archaeological records of the population distribution of Maori at the beginning and end of that century could be very revealing.  It has been suggested that there was a large-scale shift in the Maori population from the South Island to the warmer North Island during that century.  If that can be confirmed, the most probable reason would be climate.  The Maori at the time had no tailored clothing and no shoes.  Without those, the snow and ice in the South Island would be very uncomfortable.

Core sample from the New Zealand glaciers might also give us some idea of climate changes in NZ between 1000 AD and 1500 AD.

There are kauri trees in New Zealand that are more than two thousand years old.  It is now illegal to fell them, but there are still plenty of stumps.  Tree-ring proxy data just waiting to be collected.

If Climate Change science claims that the twentieth-century warming is unprecedented, then it must rigorously test the claim.  The science is well-resourced and well-funded.  Why has it not gone looking for evidence of the climate in the Southern Hemisphere during and after the MWP?  Given Phil Jones statement highlighted above, it would seem to be very important.

References:

BBC Interview with Phil Jones: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8511670.stm

A GISS Scientist pans the IPCC Report

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You have to wonder…

The IPCC was so determined to get its proselytising message out there that it rejected all advice and all criticism pointing out its lack of evidential backing for the extraordinary claims that it wanted to make.  Not just from outsiders and skeptics, but also from its own troops.

Like a man called Andrew Lacis of GISS.  Yep, that GISS – Hansen’s GISS.  Lacis criticised the executive summary of Chapter 9 of the IPCC report thus:

There is no scientific merit to be found in the Executive Summary. The presentation sounds like something put together by Greenpeace activists and their legal department. The points being made are made arbitrarily with legal sounding caveats without having established any foundation or basis in fact. The Executive Summary seems to be a political statement that is only designed to annoy greenhouse skeptics. Wasn’t the IPCC Assessment Report intended to be a scientific document that would merit solid backing from the climate science community – instead of forcing many climate scientists into having to agree with greenhouse skeptic criticisms that this is indeed a report with a clear and obvious political agenda. Attribution can not happen until understanding has been clearly demonstrated. Once the facts of climate change have been established and understood, attribution will become self-evident to all. The Executive Summary as it stands is beyond redemption and should simply be deleted.

He’s talking about the summary of the chapter of the report that “establishes” that the global warming is man-made – the one that is the basis of the clarion call to action.

The man is one of the climate science community.  It is very clear from his criticism that he is a scientist on the side of the warmers.  It is also clear that he wants the findings presented with scientific rigour, open to testing and scientific debate.  Which is what I would expect from a scientist.  Scientists are not afraid to have their theories examined.  In fact, they actively want that to happen.  That’s how knowledge evolves.

But the IPCC, as he observed, is about promoting a political agenda.  It is not about knowledge.  Lacis’s criticism was rejected as summarily as those from outside the ranks of the AGW lobby.  Nothing was going to stop the IPCC from pressing ahead with their baloney.

Andrew Lacis, maybe you should contact Penn & Teller.  They may disagree with you, but they at least would discuss that disagreement rationally.

Reference: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/09/hansen-colleague-rejected-ipcc-ar4-es-as-having-no-scientific-merit-but-what-does-ipcc-do/

Torturing the Satellite Temperature Data

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The satellite temperature record shows that January 2010 was the warmest January since satellite temperature measurements began in 1979.

Yep. The data don’t lie.

They didn’t lie about the cooling from 1998 to last year, when the published global temperatures by the AGW lobby said the earth was still warming.

And they didn’t lie about the extra warm January in 2007.  And they don’t lie about January 2010.  It’s warm – very warm.

The Grumpy Old Man is in the mood for sooth-saying.

First prediction:  Many of the AGW lobby will now temporarily forget their distrust of satellite-measured temperatures and insist that this result supports their belief that the earth is warming as a result of man-made CO2.  They will forget that distrust, that is, until the satellite-measured temperatures fall, just as they did from 1998 to last year.  If the data don’t support their beliefs, then the data will be obviously wrong, and will be supplanted by carefully homogenised temperatures from an AGW-friendly source.

Second prediction:  Some of the responses to the Accuweather Global Warming blog post that reported the January record temperature will provide supporting evidence of the truth of the first prediction.

First Speculation:  The warmer Arctic temperatures caused by the negative Arctic Oscillation will result in thinner than usual sea-ice.  Spring and Summer will therefore bring a collapse of Arctic sea-ice, similar to the one that occurred in 2007.  Which will be cited as further evidence of AGW.

Second Speculation:  Global temperatures will drop dramatically in 2010, just as they did in 2007 after the record January temperatures of that year.  And the AGW lobby will suddenly mistrust the satellite record once more.  NASA will publish their own terrestrial records, homogenised and averaged beyond all recognition, which will diametrically contradict the satellite record.

We’ll be able to assess the two predictions after reading all the responses to the Accuweather post.  The speculations will take the rest of 2010 to assess.